DocHouse said:"The WTBS promotes a lot of goofy opinion as FACT (such as Jesus has RULED for 100 years!)."
Are you aware of the following letter?
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"SCG:SSF September 1, 1980
TO ALL CIRCUIT AND DISTRICT OVERSEERS
Dear Brothers:....Help the elders discern between one who is a trouble-making apostate and a Christian who becomes weak in faith and has doubts. (2 Peter 2; Jude 22, 23) The former one should be dealt with decisively after extended efforts put forth to readjust him....Keep in mind that to be disfellowshiped,an apostate does not have to be a promoter of apostate views. As mentioned in paragraph two, page 17 of the August 1, 1980, Watchtower, "The word 'apostasy' comes from a Greek term that means 'a standing away from,' 'a falling away, defection,' 'rebellion, abandonment. Therefore, if a baptized Christian abandons the teachings of Jehovah, as presented by the faithful and discreet slave, and persists in believing other doctrine despite Scriptural reproof, then he is apostatizing. Extended, kindly efforts should be put forth to readjust his thinking. However,if, after such extended efforts have been put forth to readjust his thinking, he continues to believe the apostate ideas and rejects what he has been provided through the slave class, then appropriate judicial action should be taken."
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/78197/1/BOE-letter-defining-apostacy#.U-f4DF2t-o8
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And for a scan of the letter..
http://jwleaks.org/boe-letters/
http://bit.ly/1anaCjz
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DocHouse also said:
" Able- you would not be DFed for just
"pointing that out"- but only if you spread that opinion causing divisions. "
^^ See the above letter.
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TONIGHT (Sunday 8-10-2014) FBI's "Most Wanted" Brother Mclean "CNN's" "THE HUNT". 1 HOUR INTERVIEW.
by BucketShopBill ingood morning brothers and sisters, remember to watch john walsh interview our brothers and sisters about brother mclean from oregon, the most wanted pedophile and top ten fbi's list of perps!
have a nice day, be cool!.
can you help bump this topic until the show is over, we have large amounts of vistors coming, seeking help and direction.
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CultBgone:
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You can watch the cnn channel over the Internet using the computer program or app from this site"
http://www.mytotal.tv/index.php
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/child-abuse/282389/1/JEHOVAH-WITNESS-PEDOPHILE-COVER-UP-ON-CNN-SUNDAY-NIGHT-FREDRICK-MCLEAN#.U-fRp12t-o8
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BreakfastOfChampions:
There is up to a 3 hour time difference between east and west, and the show airs at 9pm on the West Coast. So it could be on in less than 5 hours from now, it depends where you are.
http://travel.blurtit.com/2258555/whats-the-time-difference-between-east-an-west-coast-united-states-which-one-is-ahead -
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Theists, why does God allow suffering..
by The Quiet One in..specifically, the suffering of animals.
you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.
i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.
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"God's first killing is hard to beat. He killed everything. Here's how he described it:
The LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them. Genesis 6.7
Behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die. 6.17
Every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth. 7.4
All flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man: All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died. And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark. 7.21-23
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So the killing contest is over. God, in his very first killing, wins the prize. The guy who killed everything "on the face of the earth" is the world's top killer. He beats Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Ghengis Khan. All those guys. Maybe not in terms of the number killed, but certainly in percentage. You just can't beat 100%.
Of course, God had his reasons. God always has his reasons."
"The whole earth was filled with violence, so God killed everything on earth. (At least he found a nonviolent solution to the problem.)
Still, I don't quite get it. Did God drown the animals because they were too violent? Didn't he make them that way in the first place -- either at creation or after the fall of Adam?"
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JEHOVAH WITNESS PEDOPHILE COVER-UP ON CNN SUNDAY NIGHT! FREDRICK MCLEAN!
by BucketShopBill inhi everyone, this has been what i have waited for, fredrick mclean is up next on cnn's "most wanted" and "hunted show", so far two of their topics are dead!.
last sunday's "the hunt" blew his head off monday morning!
let's hope cnn get's jehovah witness fredrick mclean!
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Apparently the West Coast is 8 hours behind UK.
So UK viewers would have to watch it at 5am tomorrow. Let's keep bumping this thread, for US viewers especially.
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JEHOVAH WITNESS PEDOPHILE COVER-UP ON CNN SUNDAY NIGHT! FREDRICK MCLEAN!
by BucketShopBill inhi everyone, this has been what i have waited for, fredrick mclean is up next on cnn's "most wanted" and "hunted show", so far two of their topics are dead!.
last sunday's "the hunt" blew his head off monday morning!
let's hope cnn get's jehovah witness fredrick mclean!
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" You can watch the cnn channel over the Internet using the computer program or app from this site"
http://www.mytotal.tv/index.php
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Theists, why does God allow suffering..
by The Quiet One in..specifically, the suffering of animals.
you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.
i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.
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Any further thoughts on this subject?
Can YOU LURKERS explain why it is just, loving and merciful for YOUR God to allow animals to be subjected to the above examples of suffering?...
Or, if you believe in the Bible, can you explain why God drowned all of those animals in the flood?
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Theists, why does God allow suffering..
by The Quiet One in..specifically, the suffering of animals.
you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.
i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.
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"The dog, a female mixed-breed that rescuers named Star was discovered in Malta by police who heard faint whimpers coming from nearby brush.
Star was found buried alive and bleeding, with her nose and mouth tied with rope and bullet wounds in her head."
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/249165/Worst-animal-cruelty-case-ever-Dog-shot-40-times-with-pellet-gun-and-buried-alive
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"THUGS cooked a cat in a microwave, stuck it in a tumble drier, put it in a freezer and then tried to drown it in a bowl of dishwater - and it survived."
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/worst-ever-animal-cruelty-case-1062180
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" A cat has had to be put to sleep after it was savagely attacked by a “Staffie-type” dog in its own garden.
Patricia Tasker, 68, was in bed when she heard an awful shrieking noise coming from her back garden in Chestnut Way, Mepal.
She rushed outside to find one of her beloved cats, ginger tom Dudley, being 'shaken around like a rag doll' "
“His injuries were horrific – all his ribs were crushed and he couldn’t breathe. He had to be put down the following afternoon.”
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/News/Pet-cat-dies-after-being-savagely-attacked-by-Staffie-type-dog-in-Mepal-20140805060000.htm
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Screw-worm fly
"An insect parasite of warm-blooded animals. The fly has red eyes and a shiny blue-green body and looks similar to Australian blowflies. Flies lay eggs on the edge of open wounds from scratches, injury, branding, dehorning or castration. Larvae hatch and feed on the underlying flesh causing extensive tissue damage. Left untreated, animals can die from infection and loss of tissue fluid. Its known for the larvae to eat their host from the inside out"
http://listverse.com/2010/01/13/top-10-most-horrific-parasite-infections/
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'Does God Care About Animals?'
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Do Jehovah's Witnesses actually HATE?
by clarity indo jehovah's witnesses actually hate?.
hatred (jwfacts).
the direction given in the watchtower goes strongly against christian examples when demanding members hate an apostate.. *.
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Bsmart, this thread was the best I could do, I PM'd everyone I could think of and this was the best response.
AFX posted a 700mb file, and there's also a mirror link I posted that works.
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JW.Org Blitz
by Theredeemer ini've noticed, partilcularly on instagram, a advertising blitz for jw.org by the dubs.
primarily its the younger ones 35 and under vs older ones.
i dont know if its just my friends or everyone but they are obsessed with jw.org.
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"A Pioneer class was each given one [a jw.org umbrella] by the CO who taught the class. I think we have to get our own made as they cannot be sold because of copyright laws."
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"So I've been seeing lots of JW.ORG items like JW.ORG pins for the campaign in August, ties, ect...things that some are saying the elders in their congregation are encouraging and have had made or purchased for their congregation.."
http://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/15789-jworg-umbrellas/
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" A local congregation has been going to festivals and fairs as "vendors" and are [h]aving amazing success. They made prototype bags with the jw.org on it and our co sent it to the branch for approval. They are looking for giveaways at these events. "
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Posted 29 July 2014 - 10:17 PM
"this is all getting too commercial now. Whats next playing cards and napkins? Maybe baby booties? Why is it I feel that the tables of the merchants need to be over turned? By someone with a rope whip and Jehovah's spirit coursing is way through his veins."
http://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/15789-jworg-umbrellas/page-2
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And there are Jw.org items on sale here..
https://www.etsy.com/search?q=jw%20org&order=most_relevant&clientAction=534.click&view_type=gallery